X-Git-Url: https://git.lizzy.rs/?a=blobdiff_plain;f=lib%2Ftheo;h=1a4b71a2653b69676c155fa18f5db1ccd816b573;hb=927e342aca77bd5a1c3752e54b2385f6bb1c2208;hp=5617c6081e2fbdce097e83ef74493d8ffeb00b3c;hpb=1d8f2ac0502bff4c3d92f431f20680e27255a896;p=plan9front.git diff --git a/lib/theo b/lib/theo index 5617c6081..1a4b71a26 100644 --- a/lib/theo +++ b/lib/theo @@ -522,3 +522,391 @@ There are too few of us, we cannot take on every problem. Everyone, please ignore these trolls who are cross-posting. Essentially, you are on your own. :-) I am not so sure. +obviously. +I don't know, but I'll think about it later, because I am busy. +So the original idea wasn't yours. And now you think it can't work. And you are still talking about it. I see. Very interesting. +That statement is full of potential for misunderstanding, and cannot be left alone. +I was wrong. +Thanks. +Careful there :-) +That is incorrect advice for the OpenBSD world. +Your mistake. +This bug report totally sucks. +what is "this case"? +my advice: walk away from this one. +Generally Unix has no way of doing this. +So what do you really mean here? +Is a crash a performance impact? +what is the goal? +Your emails only contain opinions. +words words words words +Are you done? +Doesn't that send shivers down your spine? +Your bug report is too incomplete. Can't help you. +No. +We'd rather jump off a cliff. +Good luck with that. +Looking forward to you providing code which solves the problem. +This feature is probably older than you. +it is behaving *exactly* as intended. +There are a few compromises. +I think I know a perfect candidate to take this further: You. +Seriously? +The OpenBSD process is quite well understood. Use the best methods, doubt what you do, refractor. +Hey, it looks like you are just trying to be a dick. +Does your mother know? +It's great that you have an opinion. +Run something else! We don't care! +That's a load of bull. +Your opinions count for zero. +To achieve merit, you must do the homework you assigned yourself. +Get serious. +and I wanna build a rocket ship... +No thanks. +The problem is obvious. +If you don't have the skill to do it, well that's too bad... +You didn't do your homework, and it blew up in your face. Then you wrote a few paragraphs. Then I replied. That is the whole sad story. +I tried to read the rest of what you wrote. It makes no sense. +I find this discussion pretty uninteresting. +I wish more people would find real bugs to fix. +:-) +I'm done. +I don't think you understand what is being done here. +Funny. +I don't see that. +I don't have an answer for you. +I don't see the purpose of that. +No. +Doctor it hurts when I stab myself in the eye. +I believe you are not trying to contribute anything valuable with your comment. +are you being trolled now? +You are not tall enough to ride. +^^^^^^^ +People who submit reports which are missing information should feel terrible. +Absolutely no way, that makes no sense. +Kill it. +On that matter, I'd say tough. +It's not black magic. +Sigh. +Disagree strongly. +Don't hold me responsible for the shortcuts. +And noone cares what you like or dislike. +There will be little or no thought. +I am very sceptical. +A related issue is lots of people don't know anything about anything. +Look, your statement is false. +That is the result of a mis-configuration on your part. +That is not best practice. +This does not matter. +It is risk, all gigantic risk. +Sometimes people put a bad idea into an RFC. +Why -- to hurt people? +Oh the situation is much worse than that. +I disagree. +The same model is not applicable to everything. +This is another offer which will be rejected. +No. +Tired of the suggestions. +The end. +Sorry, I see it the other way around. +This is how rumours start, I guess. +That is incorrect. +That is the worst possible advice ever. +I am really impressed by the analytical skills I observe here. +Maybe the fortress fell over because you didn't have enough Lego. +Why are you doing this? +I still don't see the use case. +You haven't justified it. +No. +I have changed my mind. +Whoa. +I don't see how that helps anything. +What do you want us to do about it? +I think you are done here. +Whoah. +because. +No, it is not. +Why? +Please supply a good justification why that is good. +End of story. +Everyone tires of your well articulated agenda pushes. +Incorrect. +Not exactly. +We already suffer from low quality in many bug reports. +Our function in this ecosystem definately does not include dealing with other people's bullshit decisions... +If you don't care, then don't talk about it. +Your voice does not count. +that is really not a useful bug report. +Yeah, you sure are the cool dude. +Things change. +Whoa. +No? +Expectation management is a bitch. +There has been a lot of discussion about this. +Just stop it. We are not going to listen to you. +That is not right. +You are on your own. +That is not true. +That's nice. +not everything is perfect. +I don't like it. +We prefer creating a world that is simpler. +Are we finished here? +that is intentional. +Why not delete it? +Pick a position -- then defend it. +Switch to Linux, where violations are the norm. +Pick a damn position, and declare it. +If software sucks, say so. +Who didn't solve that problem? People like you. +Around here, you come off like a dick who didn't help everyone. +unfeasible! +There is no juxtaposition. +AND WHERE IS THE PONY. +It's ok, my cats cannot read and interpret such complexities either. +You bought some plastic. +You sir, are just wastewater. +Your words are just bile. +You are way out of line with the software development community. +Your interpretations are hostile. +I could be doing far better things than making CDs. +No way. +You are more likely to get sympathy from your mother. +[rest deleted] +if you can't use the tools to study what is happening, you don't stand a chance making things better +No thanks, it does not make sense. +No, you should not. +We do not have magic to do this at the moment. +Well, openbsd is not linux. +This is likely to change, in some way. +Thanks for the feedback :-) +No, it is not. +Why? +Please supply a good justification why that is good. +End of story. +Everyone tires of your well articulated agenda pushes. +Incorrect. +Not exactly. +We already suffer from low quality in many bug reports. +Our function in this ecosystem definately does not include dealing with other people's bullshit decisions... +If you don't care, then don't talk about it. +Your voice does not count. +that is really not a useful bug report. +Yeah, you sure are the cool dude. +Things change. +Whoa. +No? +Expectation management is a bitch. +There has been a lot of discussion about this. +Just stop it. We are not going to listen to you. +That is not right. +You are on your own. +That is not true. +That's nice. +not everything is perfect. +I don't like it. +We prefer creating a world that is simpler. +Are we finished here? +that is intentional. +Why not delete it? +Pick a position -- then defend it. +Switch to Linux, where violations are the norm. +Pick a damn position, and declare it. +If software sucks, say so. +Who didn't solve that problem? People like you. +Around here, you come off like a dick who didn't help everyone. +unfeasible! +There is no juxtaposition. +AND WHERE IS THE PONY. +It's ok, my cats cannot read and interpret such complexities either. +You bought some plastic. +You sir, are just wastewater. +Your words are just bile. +You are way out of line with the software development community. +Your interpretations are hostile. +I could be doing far better things than making CDs. +No way. +You are more likely to get sympathy from your mother. +[rest deleted] +if you can't use the tools to study what is happening, you don't stand a chance making things better +No thanks, it does not make sense. +No, you should not. +We do not have magic to do this at the moment. +Well, openbsd is not linux. +This is likely to change, in some way. +Thanks for the feedback :-) +you will only receive crocodile tears from me. +Well perhaps you should just leave if you don't like the truth? +It is all about your actions. +Survival in the universe requires more than copy-and-paste. +Summary: The OP has a learning disability. +Frankly, who cares? +Get off my computer kidz. +That stands against my principles. +Take a chill pill, or participate in improving it, or wait your turn. +When things go wrong, we contain their influence. +sorry to hear you don't understand +this is not really a forum to attempt education +Look -- did you read the manual page? +It seems you did all that, but didn't read the manual pages. +Not all errata are for security. +Undeducated *check* opinioned *check* +There is no way to forgive people who intentionally step in the shit. +It sounds as if you don't understand what happens. +So what is learned here? +I don't have an answer. +Let me get this straight. +I see your character... +You can do whatever you want. +That is completely insane. +That's the kind of comment that leads me to take bug reports less seriously in the future... +Crazy. +Please. +I really doubt the drama of this. +whatever +Look. +Well, is mentioning this even important? +I'll ask the question: Why are you sure you need that? +pretty sad, but I guess that's the way the world works +There is a bug in your brain. +You yammer yammer yammer without detail. +Something is eating your brain. +It depends on what you want. +They are manual pages, not manual books. +You are welcome to spend your time building an entire new subsystem and proving the value of your work. +Go knock yourself out. +Sorry you lost me. +I can't tell if you are supporting a useless idea, or declaring that a useless idea is not worth supporting. +So lets just yak about it, right? +Yes, I said asshole. +I'm astounded by this situation. +It is hard to believe people will want that. +Why the surprise? +Basically, this cannot be oversimplified by 1 line questions followed by 1 line answers. +I'm sorry, but I don't get it. +Bootstrapping problem is bootstrapping problem. +That is not possible. +You really haven't got a clue. +You can go read the source. +That is incorrect. +We don't manage dependencies. +You haven't justified need. +Careful what you ask for. +Demands aren't well received. +A detailed bug report helps. 1 line of whining doesn't. +4. Roll up sleeves and fix the issue. +If you don't understand how computers and networking work, I'm sure you can find another job. +Not everyone is suited to every role. +Another solution is to smash that device with a hammer. +Did that help? +Some of you will think this is a total joke. +Overdocumenting isn't a strength. +If you want it working, you will need to get it fixed. +If you really wanted it fixed you have the src code. +Please leave here. +Just you, I think. +That won't work. +If I see a mail which isn't plain text, I delete it. +someone in linux land went off the map here. +only thinking of yourself, and missing the point. +No, what you want does not exist. +I said no the first time, and provided a detailed explaination. +Why did you feel the need jump in? Ichy butt? +Let's just stop this. +You just aren't capable of listening to what is being said. +I'd like my lawn mowed. +I think the entire approach is dumb. +There was once a better path. +Animated sparkle. +I'm not sure what else you expect. +Punting stupid problems along forever just gets worse and worse. +In a decade, what will this mess look like? +When people push buttons, they will eventually hit something undocumented. +I just came to the conclusion you are a loudmouthed jackass. +So go away. +That doesn't make sense. +Well the options are: Get involved and do the work, or watch. +There is no policy. +Twice the work == twice the work. +Unfortunately, you cannot really help. +Learn the magic, change the magic. +Oh, so you are just some boasty guy on the net +You own all the pieces. +You are wrong. +No way. +You are showing inexperience. +No, not really. +Basically you are saying we should just change everything, consequences and corectness be damned. +Uhm, in your dreams. +Not everything in unix is perfect. +That sucks. +That is working as intended. +ktrace or it didn't happen. +The solution is obvious. +By the way who are you? +You come off as pretty uncharitable. +More complexity. +I don't think you are listening. +Shrug. +I discussed world peace in a bar once. +Lots of words. No action. +Or you can go it all yourself. Why don't you do that? +It is pretty obvious you are only thinking of yourself, so you should go create your own system. +But we don't need to put up with your demands. +Adjust your attitude user +I believe this conversation is over, because you have no credibility. +Oh are you just talking? +Inventing crazy shit is pointless. +Lots of misunderstandings in there. +Mitigations should be as cheap as possible to satisfy the goal. +Then it is probably over your head. Not much I can do about that. +That interpretation is wrong. +Don't change my words. +It is over your head. Or learn to read. Or learn to not reply before you think. +You have a self-entitlement issue. +IF YOU ARE A GIGANTIC SLOPPY FAT PIG YOU SURE DO +Please go fluff up your sense of selfworth elsewhere. +There are no workarounds. +You been running that on the internet? +That'd be like leaving a running chainsaw on the floor at a daycare center. +When something is dangerous, we get rid of it. +Sometimes it is almost like there is a stream of people who want us to stop trying. +Oh, cut your crap. +So fix it, or pay someone to fix it. +Oh the righteous indignation of public discussion! +Have you ever heard of the concept of helping yourself? +Don't believe all the promises you hear. +Unfortunately noone cares. +not that it matters. +Sometimes there's a vast difference between a person who declares something useful and easy to do, and the reality. Sometimes the person is just plain wrong. +I hope noone helps you. +You are not helping out. +You are doing the bare mininum and tapping on a keyboard. +The socket layer will conspire against you. +so much drama +Your process will not solve anything. +But this isn't a pony shop. +Shut up +It is documented. +Sorry, your interpretation is incorrect. +Do we want the 1% solution? No. +I triage bugs by hitting 'd' in my mail reader. +I disagree +And please stop using that word. +I doubt anyone believes your extremely vague assertions. +Who cares? +You are making stuff up. +I don't think so. +you've all been trollolololololololo'd +Why? +Are we done here? +You can search for the rest of the information yourself. +No. +No. +Not going to explain further. +Get your shit together +oh my, the moral outrage +Let it go, and consider leaving for good. +Do you have evidence? +Diffs are welcome. +Please don't do that.