Everyone, please ignore these trolls who are cross-posting.
Essentially, you are on your own. :-)
I am not so sure.
+obviously.
+I don't know, but I'll think about it later, because I am busy.
+So the original idea wasn't yours. And now you think it can't work. And you are still talking about it. I see. Very interesting.
+That statement is full of potential for misunderstanding, and cannot be left alone.
+I was wrong.
+Thanks.
+Careful there :-)
+That is incorrect advice for the OpenBSD world.
+Your mistake.
+This bug report totally sucks.
+what is "this case"?
+my advice: walk away from this one.
+Generally Unix has no way of doing this.
+So what do you really mean here?
+Is a crash a performance impact?
+what is the goal?
+Your emails only contain opinions.
+words words words words
+Are you done?
+Doesn't that send shivers down your spine?
+Your bug report is too incomplete. Can't help you.
+No.
+We'd rather jump off a cliff.
+Good luck with that.
+Looking forward to you providing code which solves the problem.
+This feature is probably older than you.
+it is behaving *exactly* as intended.
+There are a few compromises.
+I think I know a perfect candidate to take this further: You.
+Seriously?
+The OpenBSD process is quite well understood. Use the best methods, doubt what you do, refractor.
+Hey, it looks like you are just trying to be a dick.
+Does your mother know?
+It's great that you have an opinion.
+Run something else! We don't care!
+That's a load of bull.
+Your opinions count for zero.
+To achieve merit, you must do the homework you assigned yourself.
+Get serious.
+and I wanna build a rocket ship...
+No thanks.
+The problem is obvious.
+If you don't have the skill to do it, well that's too bad...
+You didn't do your homework, and it blew up in your face. Then you wrote a few paragraphs. Then I replied. That is the whole sad story.
+I tried to read the rest of what you wrote. It makes no sense.
+I find this discussion pretty uninteresting.
+I wish more people would find real bugs to fix.
+:-)
+I'm done.
+I don't think you understand what is being done here.
+Funny.
+I don't see that.
+I don't have an answer for you.
+I don't see the purpose of that.
+No.
+Doctor it hurts when I stab myself in the eye.
+I believe you are not trying to contribute anything valuable with your comment.
+are you being trolled now?
+You are not tall enough to ride.
+^^^^^^^
+People who submit reports which are missing information should feel terrible.
+Absolutely no way, that makes no sense.
+Kill it.
+On that matter, I'd say tough.
+It's not black magic.
+Sigh.
+Disagree strongly.
+Don't hold me responsible for the shortcuts.
+And noone cares what you like or dislike.
+There will be little or no thought.
+I am very sceptical.
+A related issue is lots of people don't know anything about anything.
+Look, your statement is false.
+That is the result of a mis-configuration on your part.
+That is not best practice.
+This does not matter.
+It is risk, all gigantic risk.
+Sometimes people put a bad idea into an RFC.
+Why -- to hurt people?
+Oh the situation is much worse than that.
+I disagree.
+The same model is not applicable to everything.
+This is another offer which will be rejected.
+No.
+Tired of the suggestions.
+The end.
+Sorry, I see it the other way around.
+This is how rumours start, I guess.
+That is incorrect.
+That is the worst possible advice ever.
+I am really impressed by the analytical skills I observe here.
+Maybe the fortress fell over because you didn't have enough Lego.
+Why are you doing this?
+I still don't see the use case.
+You haven't justified it.
+No.
+I have changed my mind.
+Whoa.
+I don't see how that helps anything.
+What do you want us to do about it?
+I think you are done here.
+Whoah.
+because.
+No, it is not.
+Why?
+Please supply a good justification why that is good.
+End of story.
+Everyone tires of your well articulated agenda pushes.
+Incorrect.
+Not exactly.
+We already suffer from low quality in many bug reports.
+Our function in this ecosystem definately does not include dealing with other people's bullshit decisions...
+If you don't care, then don't talk about it.
+Your voice does not count.
+that is really not a useful bug report.
+Yeah, you sure are the cool dude.
+Things change.
+Whoa.
+No?
+Expectation management is a bitch.
+There has been a lot of discussion about this.
+Just stop it. We are not going to listen to you.
+That is not right.
+You are on your own.
+That is not true.
+That's nice.
+not everything is perfect.
+I don't like it.
+We prefer creating a world that is simpler.
+Are we finished here?
+that is intentional.
+Why not delete it?
+Pick a position -- then defend it.
+Switch to Linux, where violations are the norm.
+Pick a damn position, and declare it.
+If software sucks, say so.
+Who didn't solve that problem? People like you.
+Around here, you come off like a dick who didn't help everyone.
+unfeasible!
+There is no juxtaposition.
+AND WHERE IS THE PONY.
+It's ok, my cats cannot read and interpret such complexities either.
+You bought some plastic.
+You sir, are just wastewater.
+Your words are just bile.
+You are way out of line with the software development community.
+Your interpretations are hostile.
+I could be doing far better things than making CDs.
+No way.
+You are more likely to get sympathy from your mother.
+[rest deleted]
+if you can't use the tools to study what is happening, you don't stand a chance making things better
+No thanks, it does not make sense.
+No, you should not.
+We do not have magic to do this at the moment.
+Well, openbsd is not linux.
+This is likely to change, in some way.
+Thanks for the feedback :-)
+No, it is not.
+Why?
+Please supply a good justification why that is good.
+End of story.
+Everyone tires of your well articulated agenda pushes.
+Incorrect.
+Not exactly.
+We already suffer from low quality in many bug reports.
+Our function in this ecosystem definately does not include dealing with other people's bullshit decisions...
+If you don't care, then don't talk about it.
+Your voice does not count.
+that is really not a useful bug report.
+Yeah, you sure are the cool dude.
+Things change.
+Whoa.
+No?
+Expectation management is a bitch.
+There has been a lot of discussion about this.
+Just stop it. We are not going to listen to you.
+That is not right.
+You are on your own.
+That is not true.
+That's nice.
+not everything is perfect.
+I don't like it.
+We prefer creating a world that is simpler.
+Are we finished here?
+that is intentional.
+Why not delete it?
+Pick a position -- then defend it.
+Switch to Linux, where violations are the norm.
+Pick a damn position, and declare it.
+If software sucks, say so.
+Who didn't solve that problem? People like you.
+Around here, you come off like a dick who didn't help everyone.
+unfeasible!
+There is no juxtaposition.
+AND WHERE IS THE PONY.
+It's ok, my cats cannot read and interpret such complexities either.
+You bought some plastic.
+You sir, are just wastewater.
+Your words are just bile.
+You are way out of line with the software development community.
+Your interpretations are hostile.
+I could be doing far better things than making CDs.
+No way.
+You are more likely to get sympathy from your mother.
+[rest deleted]
+if you can't use the tools to study what is happening, you don't stand a chance making things better
+No thanks, it does not make sense.
+No, you should not.
+We do not have magic to do this at the moment.
+Well, openbsd is not linux.
+This is likely to change, in some way.
+Thanks for the feedback :-)
+you will only receive crocodile tears from me.
+Well perhaps you should just leave if you don't like the truth?
+It is all about your actions.
+Survival in the universe requires more than copy-and-paste.
+Summary: The OP has a learning disability.
+Frankly, who cares?
+Get off my computer kidz.
+That stands against my principles.
+Take a chill pill, or participate in improving it, or wait your turn.
+When things go wrong, we contain their influence.
+sorry to hear you don't understand
+this is not really a forum to attempt education
+Look -- did you read the manual page?
+It seems you did all that, but didn't read the manual pages.
+Not all errata are for security.
+Undeducated *check* opinioned *check*
+There is no way to forgive people who intentionally step in the shit.
+It sounds as if you don't understand what happens.
+So what is learned here?
+I don't have an answer.
+Let me get this straight.
+I see your character...
+You can do whatever you want.
+That is completely insane.
+That's the kind of comment that leads me to take bug reports less seriously in the future...
+Crazy.
+Please.
+I really doubt the drama of this.
+whatever
+Look.
+Well, is mentioning this even important?
+I'll ask the question: Why are you sure you need that?
+pretty sad, but I guess that's the way the world works
+There is a bug in your brain.
+You yammer yammer yammer without detail.
+Something is eating your brain.
+It depends on what you want.
+They are manual pages, not manual books.
+You are welcome to spend your time building an entire new subsystem and proving the value of your work.
+Go knock yourself out.
+Sorry you lost me.
+I can't tell if you are supporting a useless idea, or declaring that a useless idea is not worth supporting.
+So lets just yak about it, right?
+Yes, I said asshole.
+I'm astounded by this situation.
+It is hard to believe people will want that.
+Why the surprise?
+Basically, this cannot be oversimplified by 1 line questions followed by 1 line answers.
+I'm sorry, but I don't get it.
+Bootstrapping problem is bootstrapping problem.
+That is not possible.
+You really haven't got a clue.
+You can go read the source.
+That is incorrect.
+We don't manage dependencies.
+You haven't justified need.
+Careful what you ask for.
+Demands aren't well received.
+A detailed bug report helps. 1 line of whining doesn't.
+4. Roll up sleeves and fix the issue.
+If you don't understand how computers and networking work, I'm sure you can find another job.
+Not everyone is suited to every role.
+Another solution is to smash that device with a hammer.
+Did that help?
+Some of you will think this is a total joke.
+Overdocumenting isn't a strength.
+If you want it working, you will need to get it fixed.
+If you really wanted it fixed you have the src code.
+Please leave here.
+Just you, I think.
+That won't work.
+If I see a mail which isn't plain text, I delete it.
+someone in linux land went off the map here.
+only thinking of yourself, and missing the point.
+No, what you want does not exist.
+I said no the first time, and provided a detailed explaination.
+Why did you feel the need jump in? Ichy butt?
+Let's just stop this.
+You just aren't capable of listening to what is being said.
+I'd like my lawn mowed.
+I think the entire approach is dumb.
+There was once a better path.
+Animated sparkle.
+I'm not sure what else you expect.
+Punting stupid problems along forever just gets worse and worse.
+In a decade, what will this mess look like?
+When people push buttons, they will eventually hit something undocumented.
+I just came to the conclusion you are a loudmouthed jackass.
+So go away.
+That doesn't make sense.
+Well the options are: Get involved and do the work, or watch.
+There is no policy.
+Twice the work == twice the work.
+Unfortunately, you cannot really help.
+Learn the magic, change the magic.
+Oh, so you are just some boasty guy on the net
+You own all the pieces.
+You are wrong.
+No way.
+You are showing inexperience.
+No, not really.
+Basically you are saying we should just change everything, consequences and corectness be damned.
+Uhm, in your dreams.
+Not everything in unix is perfect.
+That sucks.
+That is working as intended.
+ktrace or it didn't happen.
+The solution is obvious.
+By the way who are you?
+You come off as pretty uncharitable.
+More complexity.
+I don't think you are listening.
+Shrug.
+I discussed world peace in a bar once.
+Lots of words. No action.
+Or you can go it all yourself. Why don't you do that?
+It is pretty obvious you are only thinking of yourself, so you should go create your own system.
+But we don't need to put up with your demands.
+Adjust your attitude user
+I believe this conversation is over, because you have no credibility.
+Oh are you just talking?
+Inventing crazy shit is pointless.
+Lots of misunderstandings in there.
+Mitigations should be as cheap as possible to satisfy the goal.
+Then it is probably over your head. Not much I can do about that.
+That interpretation is wrong.
+Don't change my words.
+It is over your head. Or learn to read. Or learn to not reply before you think.
+You have a self-entitlement issue.
+IF YOU ARE A GIGANTIC SLOPPY FAT PIG YOU SURE DO
+Please go fluff up your sense of selfworth elsewhere.
+There are no workarounds.
+You been running that on the internet?
+That'd be like leaving a running chainsaw on the floor at a daycare center.
+When something is dangerous, we get rid of it.
+Sometimes it is almost like there is a stream of people who want us to stop trying.
+Oh, cut your crap.
+So fix it, or pay someone to fix it.
+Oh the righteous indignation of public discussion!
+Have you ever heard of the concept of helping yourself?
+Don't believe all the promises you hear.
+Unfortunately noone cares.
+not that it matters.
+Sometimes there's a vast difference between a person who declares something useful and easy to do, and the reality. Sometimes the person is just plain wrong.
+I hope noone helps you.
+You are not helping out.
+You are doing the bare mininum and tapping on a keyboard.
+The socket layer will conspire against you.
+so much drama
+Your process will not solve anything.
+But this isn't a pony shop.
+Shut up
+It is documented.
+Sorry, your interpretation is incorrect.
+Do we want the 1% solution? No.
+I triage bugs by hitting 'd' in my mail reader.
+I disagree
+And please stop using that word.
+I doubt anyone believes your extremely vague assertions.
+Who cares?
+You are making stuff up.
+I don't think so.
+you've all been trollolololololololo'd
+Why?
+Are we done here?
+You can search for the rest of the information yourself.
+No.
+No.
+Not going to explain further.
+Get your shit together
+oh my, the moral outrage
+Let it go, and consider leaving for good.
+Do you have evidence?
+Diffs are welcome.
+Please don't do that.
+I don't understand what you are saying.
+I doubt it.
+Well, I disagree.
+I don't believe any of this.
+Not all tools are for everyone.
+So a javascript exploit in your browser can perform a rm -rf.
+Fine.
+If you dont like our software, please dont use it.
+In your opinion.
+If you don't like what it does, don't use it.
+The bullshit foaming out of your mouth is astounding.
+PLEASE STOP USING OPENBSD IMMEDIATELY
+Look, you are wrong.
+No. It ends here.
+For now, no.
+I'm think you don't get it.
+I hear "me me me".
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