No way.
None of that matters here.
I am not directing you.
+Wow. You sure do set the bar low.
+The rest of what you are yapping about does not matter.
+Do you think we care?
+God bless the people who employ you, they need the blessing.
+That's the process.
+Hey, stick a screw driver into your ear.
+Does it help anything? No.
+Ridiculous.
+You know better.
+Lacking a terse starting point, soon we have users who don't know where to start.
+Beautiful.
+the multiplicative effects are far too serious.
+^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+If you believe strongly in this idea, you should take an entire operating system base and prove the case.
+Good luck!
+Totally wrong there.
+Uhm, that's a pretty weak argument.
+Standing alone, "compatibility with FOO" is not a very strong argument. What next, "compatibility with Xenix and Windows"?
+Too bad. You can use other software.
+I decided to make a guess as to the region you are from.
+Your request is ridiculous.
+The people who write code get to decide how they document it.
+Don't like it? Then walk away.
+The only person who did something useful, is the author of the software.
+There is a user community, and a development community.
+Listen to yourself, proud of the complex words you found in a dictionary.
+It is really amazing that so many people prefer to remain blissfully unaware.
+I have seen nothing I would qualify as a "bug report".
+Sorry, but it's the truth.
+So glad to have the expert speak.
+It is clear you don't understand the code that was commited.
+It is an obvious mechanism.
+Good luck.
+Autoinstall does not handle this type of problem either.
+I was quite unhappy when this "solution" was proposed initially, since solutions of that sort often lead to no true solution down the road.
+I really love how we keep getting advice.
+That's a great idea.
+That is not true.
+Maybe.
+It's so simple. Why didn't I think of it.
+I am going to make a guess here.
+Imagine you told us a lot about your life, and we gave you advice.
+If you want it done, do it yourself.
+I rather doubt it.
+You've missed the point.
+Wow, so many crazy suggstions.
+I completely doubt that.
+thanks for the lesson in logic.
+No, the original answer here is the right one.
+Please state your case very carefully and clearly.
+Right now, you are not talking facts.
+You are spreading misinformation.
+Why???
+NO WAY!
+That feels like a disservice to the world.
+This is total balony.
+Bullshit.
+Wow. What hostility.
+There's research and there is the real world.
+From time to time, mistakes sneak in.
+It is theoretically possible to give a loaded gun to a baby; things will probably work out fine.
+What is your solution?
+And what is your solution?
+I'm getting ready to declare you a kook
+In that situation, you would probably want to be left in piece.
+If you start your own successfull project, you also can develop your own set of reasons for doing any of a variety of operational things at any point in time.
+You seem to have a rather over-extented sense of entitlement
+Most people are not capable of writing good patches, so it would be unprofessional to ask such people to write patches.
+You are speaking like a child.
+You really need to write a single comprehensive bug report that has no inconsistancies.
+THANK YOU FOR THE CLARITY.
+Sigh.
+So read what I said again.
+Improvements come when people try to push forward along the curve.
+People like you...
+Let's follow that thought.
+Incorrect.
+I don't see the point.
+So that is the reason why my car stereo has two sets of volume control knobs..... with the second set located inside the engine compartment, so I have to stop at the side of the road, pop open the hood, and reach down along the hot engine to near where the oil filter is.
+Take that for what it is.
+Whatever you're doing, it is wrong.
+Riiiiiiiiight. Suuuuuuuure. Keep believing that.
+I would like to see some proof of that.
+That's not going to happen.
+Wow. No.
+You are showing that you can't do any research at all, but want to throw ideas out.
+Unlikely.
+Well...
+That is a very dangerous direction.
+I think this will cause further damage.
+Are you saying OpenBSD does it wrong, or that all the operating systems do it wrong?
+Wow, really thick skull you got there.
+Get real.
+You can decide what you do with your time, but you cannot decide what other people do with theirs.
+And then we move on?
+Are you kidding? Who does that help? Who?
+You have offered nothing.
+You overstate your worth.
+shrug
+In your dreams.
+Amazing isn't it?
+Oh now I sense some angst.
+See how bad things start to happen?
+But I think it is clear you aren't a programmer, and this is over your head.
+Did they pay you to write all that text?
+there is bullshit coming out of your mouth.
+The nastiest behaviour is "sense of entitlement".
+You are the type of people who create these situations.
+We rarely hear about success, because those people are just happy.
+Totall irrelevant.
+It is what it is. Work with it.
+In the interests of full disclosure, do you work for the government or sell to the government?
+I heard.
+you must know, i want no part in any politics.
+i'm trying to stay out of politics.
+there are fingers to point all the way around.
+am i making all this up? perhaps i am, but you don't have to dream my dreams.
+i was up at 9am, climbed a mountain, hiked 6 km through 4ft deep slush (the image you are supposed to get is of 12 million overturned slurpee cups, and of geting your groin wet in slurpee), nearly died eating beef vindaloo, wrote some code, talked on the phone, wrote mail, and now it's almost 4am and this is absolutely beyond ridiculous.
+who said that?
+why are you asking me?
+Then I guess you are just stupid.
+Since you don't supply diffs, you are a waste of skin.
+Huh? You've understood incorrectly.
+This approach is simplestic and wrong.
+This is not a conversation about your IPv6 connection.
+What problem are you trying to solve?
+Wow, what chatter.
+I don't understand society is producing a generation of people incapable of self-help.
+There are people who do that.
+Shrug.
+Chill dude.
+It is crap.
+Oh good god.
+I don't know you, maybe I am misinterpreting you.
+Wow, don't know where you got that from.
+You persist in reading too much into things.
+So this is a great way to lose focus.
+You can figure out what I'm not saying on this line.
+I think this is a trap.
+That is an interesting claim.
+ANSWER THE QUESTION.
+I am not playing any games. Let's look at the facts.
+I haven't even read this.
+I don't care.
+I quite dislike the direction this is going.
+Nothing ever changes, noone ever learns, noone cares.
+With your attitude, I beg you to please go run some other operating system.
+Why haven't you left? Please leave.
+Please leave immediately.
+Get over it.
+Please read the actual code.
+Was that neccessary?
+Handholding can go only so far.
+Please, not again.
+It is in the FAQ.
+Someone is totally full of shit.
+You are quite a character.
+I suspect money which goes into your bank account comes from an entity not quite on the same side as us.
+You have an agenda.
+So easy to be critical.
+Great conversation...
+Who do you work for? Governments?
+Please people, ignore him.
+I love this conversation.
+Amazing.
+Go a few cycles.
+Why?
+No really, precisely why do you trust us?
+What a joke.
+That is quite a fiction.
+Never expect a group to perform a task which an individual won't.
+We never said our code should be trusted.
+Since I value my sanity, I saw that report, and I ignored it.
+The complaint department is down the hall.
+Such strong words.
+It must be easy to sit in your chair and demand that others meet your expectations.
+Didn't you read the manual page?
+I think you are on your own.
+Nope.
+Look there is a disconnect.
+Fundamentally, OpenBSD is a research project.
+Hilarious.
+Your process seems to be "I don't understand the problem, so here is a diff"
+And now let's ask the question which matters.
+Did you think of that?
+You aren't even trying. PLONK.
+Oh just shut up.
+You aren't going to do shit because you don't have any skills.
+Thank you for adding the value of your words.
+This is idle chatter hoping someone supplies some secret sauce that makes a disparate audience with different demands all happy.
+Welcome to the real world.
+Sorry.
+Violates POSIX and C89, which violate best practice in this century.
+Look, this is rather simple.
+Oh really.
+It ends badly.
+I explained that.
+Alas.
+The NTP codebase is larger than the SSH codebase.
+Guess you don't understand internet.
+Can I ask what kind of plant are you?
+And who are you, and what you have you done to test and then prove your thesis?
+I am continually baffled by how often we have to explain this point, over and over and over again.
+Do not submit a new bug report.
+Let me be blunt. Your advice is bad.
+If as a general rule we all want better code running on our systems, where do you fit in?
+Nope!
+Sigh.
+Now you plainly don't sound like a developer type.
+What is your solution?
+You've got access to all this source code.
+If you can't study the world around you, you will remain ignorant.
+Don't worry.
+For contributions to the OpenBSD Project, I make the decision of how to spend it.
+Is that an accusation?
+Look, you'll be fine.
+Don't waste your money on a false ideal by someone who misunderstands modern hardware and the market forces.
+I've think you've had your say.
+You've had your say.
+Do you get it? I doubt it.
+How dreary.
+Anyways, your timing is atrocious!
+Look, stop being a child.
+Such hyperbole! Such drama!
+Reactive is not the same as proactive.
+Please run something else. You'll be happier. Really.
+The problem is you don't pay it backwards. You don't pay it forward. You don't pay at all. You just beg.
+I'll ask in a general fashion: Are you stupid?
+You don't provide any encouragement except for "me me! think of me!".
+You are out of touch.
+OpenBSD is not generally known as an exposed democracy.
+Are you going to do something -- beyond just being sarcastic?
+Highly unlikely.
+Thanks for including all the information in the report.
+Better question is: Why?
+Get back onto your meds.
+What a waste of words.
+Please people stop mailing me privately and asking.
+Wait and see.
+In general, you underestimate the effort involved.
+Well, I don't think the world will fall over as a result.
+NOT....
+I think this entire conversation is ridiculous, right from the start.
+I do not agree with those assessments.
+In that case, what's the fuss?
+Well....
+I disagree on all those points.
+Completely wrong, and I have no no idea where you got that from!
+Read the man page again!
+You are scaring me.
+I believe something is not being understood here.
+I don't normally do this.
+Well sorry.
+I don't see any reason.
+Oh something is broken?
+Please show your work.
+Let's get serious and personal here for a second. In other aspects of life, do you behave the same?
+That is kind of crazy, isn't it.
+That is an incorrect assessment.
+That is only the beginning of it.
+This is more than a meme. It is a plot.
+Boggles the mind.
+Please.
+You know that is bullshit right?
+Please stop subscribing us to your motivations.
+That is false.
+You are speaking in riddles.
+That's nice.
+You are so full of BS!
+You are quite a persistant idiot.
+You don't know jack shit about computers or electronics, that much is obvious.
+Once again you show that you don't know shit.
+You are on your own.
+you have confused yourself.
+Well there is this funny story about when I hacked into RMS's firmware-driven keyboard controller, and managed to grap his root password.
+You've been smoking something really mind altering, and I think you should share it.
+You've seen something on the shelf, and it has all sorts of pretty colurs, and you've bought it.
+Feeling a lot of dejavu here.
+People should be careful what they ask for
+Aww come on, you had us going until then.
+I think I hear of someone doing this about every 10 years.
+I made none of the claims you are composing.
+That makes no sense.
+Cannot.
+Your process here is really strange.
+How bizzare.
+This conversation is going far too meta.
+What's the goal.
+You have a diff?
+What you are trying to do is insane, wrong, and entirely unsupported.
+SERIOUSLY??
+If you turn the forums you frequent into your help desk, you are taking away their ability to focus on delivering you the software you use.
+There are too few of us, we cannot take on every problem.
+Everyone, please ignore these trolls who are cross-posting.
+Essentially, you are on your own. :-)
+I am not so sure.
+obviously.
+I don't know, but I'll think about it later, because I am busy.
+So the original idea wasn't yours. And now you think it can't work. And you are still talking about it. I see. Very interesting.
+That statement is full of potential for misunderstanding, and cannot be left alone.
+I was wrong.
+Thanks.
+Careful there :-)
+That is incorrect advice for the OpenBSD world.
+Your mistake.
+This bug report totally sucks.
+what is "this case"?
+my advice: walk away from this one.
+Generally Unix has no way of doing this.
+So what do you really mean here?
+Is a crash a performance impact?
+what is the goal?
+Your emails only contain opinions.
+words words words words
+Are you done?
+Doesn't that send shivers down your spine?
+Your bug report is too incomplete. Can't help you.
+No.
+We'd rather jump off a cliff.
+Good luck with that.
+Looking forward to you providing code which solves the problem.
+This feature is probably older than you.
+it is behaving *exactly* as intended.
+There are a few compromises.
+I think I know a perfect candidate to take this further: You.
+Seriously?
+The OpenBSD process is quite well understood. Use the best methods, doubt what you do, refractor.
+Hey, it looks like you are just trying to be a dick.
+Does your mother know?
+It's great that you have an opinion.
+Run something else! We don't care!
+That's a load of bull.
+Your opinions count for zero.
+To achieve merit, you must do the homework you assigned yourself.
+Get serious.
+and I wanna build a rocket ship...
+No thanks.
+The problem is obvious.
+If you don't have the skill to do it, well that's too bad...
+You didn't do your homework, and it blew up in your face. Then you wrote a few paragraphs. Then I replied. That is the whole sad story.
+I tried to read the rest of what you wrote. It makes no sense.
+I find this discussion pretty uninteresting.
+I wish more people would find real bugs to fix.
+:-)
+I'm done.
+I don't think you understand what is being done here.
+Funny.
+I don't see that.
+I don't have an answer for you.
+I don't see the purpose of that.
+No.
+Doctor it hurts when I stab myself in the eye.
+I believe you are not trying to contribute anything valuable with your comment.
+are you being trolled now?
+You are not tall enough to ride.
+^^^^^^^
+People who submit reports which are missing information should feel terrible.
+Absolutely no way, that makes no sense.
+Kill it.
+On that matter, I'd say tough.
+It's not black magic.
+Sigh.
+Disagree strongly.
+Don't hold me responsible for the shortcuts.
+And noone cares what you like or dislike.
+There will be little or no thought.
+I am very sceptical.
+A related issue is lots of people don't know anything about anything.
+Look, your statement is false.
+That is the result of a mis-configuration on your part.
+That is not best practice.
+This does not matter.
+It is risk, all gigantic risk.
+Sometimes people put a bad idea into an RFC.
+Why -- to hurt people?
+Oh the situation is much worse than that.
+I disagree.
+The same model is not applicable to everything.
+This is another offer which will be rejected.
+No.
+Tired of the suggestions.
+The end.
+Sorry, I see it the other way around.
+This is how rumours start, I guess.
+That is incorrect.
+That is the worst possible advice ever.
+I am really impressed by the analytical skills I observe here.
+Maybe the fortress fell over because you didn't have enough Lego.
+Why are you doing this?
+I still don't see the use case.
+You haven't justified it.
+No.
+I have changed my mind.
+Whoa.
+I don't see how that helps anything.
+What do you want us to do about it?
+I think you are done here.
+Whoah.
+because.
+No, it is not.
+Why?
+Please supply a good justification why that is good.
+End of story.
+Everyone tires of your well articulated agenda pushes.
+Incorrect.
+Not exactly.
+We already suffer from low quality in many bug reports.
+Our function in this ecosystem definately does not include dealing with other people's bullshit decisions...
+If you don't care, then don't talk about it.
+Your voice does not count.
+that is really not a useful bug report.
+Yeah, you sure are the cool dude.
+Things change.
+Whoa.
+No?
+Expectation management is a bitch.
+There has been a lot of discussion about this.
+Just stop it. We are not going to listen to you.
+That is not right.
+You are on your own.
+That is not true.
+That's nice.
+not everything is perfect.
+I don't like it.
+We prefer creating a world that is simpler.
+Are we finished here?
+that is intentional.
+Why not delete it?
+Pick a position -- then defend it.
+Switch to Linux, where violations are the norm.
+Pick a damn position, and declare it.
+If software sucks, say so.
+Who didn't solve that problem? People like you.
+Around here, you come off like a dick who didn't help everyone.
+unfeasible!
+There is no juxtaposition.
+AND WHERE IS THE PONY.
+It's ok, my cats cannot read and interpret such complexities either.
+You bought some plastic.
+You sir, are just wastewater.
+Your words are just bile.
+You are way out of line with the software development community.
+Your interpretations are hostile.
+I could be doing far better things than making CDs.
+No way.
+You are more likely to get sympathy from your mother.
+[rest deleted]
+if you can't use the tools to study what is happening, you don't stand a chance making things better
+No thanks, it does not make sense.
+No, you should not.
+We do not have magic to do this at the moment.
+Well, openbsd is not linux.
+This is likely to change, in some way.
+Thanks for the feedback :-)
+No, it is not.
+Why?
+Please supply a good justification why that is good.
+End of story.
+Everyone tires of your well articulated agenda pushes.
+Incorrect.
+Not exactly.
+We already suffer from low quality in many bug reports.
+Our function in this ecosystem definately does not include dealing with other people's bullshit decisions...
+If you don't care, then don't talk about it.
+Your voice does not count.
+that is really not a useful bug report.
+Yeah, you sure are the cool dude.
+Things change.
+Whoa.
+No?
+Expectation management is a bitch.
+There has been a lot of discussion about this.
+Just stop it. We are not going to listen to you.
+That is not right.
+You are on your own.
+That is not true.
+That's nice.
+not everything is perfect.
+I don't like it.
+We prefer creating a world that is simpler.
+Are we finished here?
+that is intentional.
+Why not delete it?
+Pick a position -- then defend it.
+Switch to Linux, where violations are the norm.
+Pick a damn position, and declare it.
+If software sucks, say so.
+Who didn't solve that problem? People like you.
+Around here, you come off like a dick who didn't help everyone.
+unfeasible!
+There is no juxtaposition.
+AND WHERE IS THE PONY.
+It's ok, my cats cannot read and interpret such complexities either.
+You bought some plastic.
+You sir, are just wastewater.
+Your words are just bile.
+You are way out of line with the software development community.
+Your interpretations are hostile.
+I could be doing far better things than making CDs.
+No way.
+You are more likely to get sympathy from your mother.
+[rest deleted]
+if you can't use the tools to study what is happening, you don't stand a chance making things better
+No thanks, it does not make sense.
+No, you should not.
+We do not have magic to do this at the moment.
+Well, openbsd is not linux.
+This is likely to change, in some way.
+Thanks for the feedback :-)
+you will only receive crocodile tears from me.
+Well perhaps you should just leave if you don't like the truth?
+It is all about your actions.
+Survival in the universe requires more than copy-and-paste.
+Summary: The OP has a learning disability.
+Frankly, who cares?
+Get off my computer kidz.
+That stands against my principles.
+Take a chill pill, or participate in improving it, or wait your turn.
+When things go wrong, we contain their influence.
+sorry to hear you don't understand
+this is not really a forum to attempt education
+Look -- did you read the manual page?
+It seems you did all that, but didn't read the manual pages.
+Not all errata are for security.
+Undeducated *check* opinioned *check*
+There is no way to forgive people who intentionally step in the shit.
+It sounds as if you don't understand what happens.
+So what is learned here?
+I don't have an answer.
+Let me get this straight.
+I see your character...
+You can do whatever you want.
+That is completely insane.
+That's the kind of comment that leads me to take bug reports less seriously in the future...
+Crazy.
+Please.
+I really doubt the drama of this.
+whatever
+Look.
+Well, is mentioning this even important?
+I'll ask the question: Why are you sure you need that?
+pretty sad, but I guess that's the way the world works
+There is a bug in your brain.
+You yammer yammer yammer without detail.
+Something is eating your brain.
+It depends on what you want.
+They are manual pages, not manual books.
+You are welcome to spend your time building an entire new subsystem and proving the value of your work.
+Go knock yourself out.
+Sorry you lost me.
+I can't tell if you are supporting a useless idea, or declaring that a useless idea is not worth supporting.
+So lets just yak about it, right?
+Yes, I said asshole.
+I'm astounded by this situation.
+It is hard to believe people will want that.
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